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Writing an RFQ for used IBC totes

Twelve lines that get you comparable quotes instead of three numbers you cannot evaluate.

September 15, 2026 · Noor Haddad · ToteOrbit, Indianapolis

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Most RFQs we receive for used containers are three lines long and produce three quotes that cannot be compared with each other. Here are the twelve lines that fix that, and why each one is there.

The twelve lines

  1. Quantity and capacity. “Forty 275 gallon” rather than “some totes.” If you can flex, say so — “forty 275 or thirty-three 330” frequently gets a better answer.
  2. Grade required, or the duty. If you know you want Grade B, say Grade B. If you do not, describe what the container will do and let the supplier recommend. The second option often saves you money.
  3. Cargo and concentration. This drives seat material, compatibility and whether a marking is needed. “Sodium hypochlorite 12.5%” is a useful line. “Chemicals” is not.
  4. Specific gravity. Determines gross weight, stacking and lift-gate suitability. If you do not know it, the SDS does.
  5. UN marking required, yes or no. This is a hard filter. A unit without a current marking cannot carry regulated cargo at any price.
  6. Outlet thread and valve type. S60x6 or NPT; butterfly or ball; seat material. Thread mismatches are the single commonest reason a delivered tote cannot be used on day one.
  7. Lid type. Vented or solid. Cheap to specify, expensive to get wrong — see the bulging bottle post.
  8. Pallet type. Plastic, steel, composite or wood, driven by where the tote will live and whether it crosses a border.
  9. Delivery ZIP and dock situation. Dock, forklift, or lift-gate needed. Freight is frequently the largest variable between quotes and it cannot be priced without this.
  10. Required date, and whether it is firm. A window beats a date. If the date is genuinely firm, say that too, because it changes what a supplier should offer you.
  11. Documentation you need. Grade card, wash record, prior-cargo declaration, test results, chain of custody, diversion certificate. Ask for it in the RFQ rather than discovering at delivery that it does not exist.
  12. Whether you also have empties to clear. This is the line nobody includes and it frequently changes the price, because a delivery paired with a collection is two useful loads for one set of miles.

Three lines that make quotes comparable

Beyond the specification, three requests do more than anything else to stop you comparing apples with oranges:

Ask for a delivered price, not ex-works. Freight is where the variance hides. A low unit price with high freight is not a cheap quote.

Ask what grade standard they use and to see it. If a supplier cannot point you at written criteria, “Grade A” from them is not the same as Grade A from anybody else. Ours is published on the grade scale page specifically so you can hold us to it.

Ask what happens if the grade is wrong. The answer tells you more about a supplier than the price does. Ours is: email a photograph, we credit or replace, we pay freight both ways, no form.

Questions worth adding when it matters

  • What is your leak test procedure and what proportion of units fail it?
  • Can I see the wash record and the prior-cargo declaration before delivery?
  • What would disqualify a unit from your food programme? (Revealing, every time.)
  • Are you the reconditioner or a broker? Who actually washed these?
  • Will you collect the empties at end of life, and at what price?

What not to put in

An arbitrary cosmetic standard. “Must be clear” sounds like a quality requirement and is frequently the opposite: clear and brittle is worse than cloudy and ductile, and specifying clarity pushes you toward units with corner stress whitening that happen to look good. Specify the duty and let the grading system do its job.

A worked example

40 × 275 gal reconditioned, Grade B. Cargo: urea ammonium nitrate 32%, SG 1.32. No UN marking required. 2 in S60x6 butterfly, EPDM seat. Vented 6 in lid. Composite pallet. Deliver to 46226, dock available, forklift on site. Needed in the window 10–24 March, not firm. Require grade card and wash record per unit. We also have approximately 60 empties to clear from the same site in July.

That is twelve lines, about ninety seconds of typing, and it gets a delivered price, a firm date and a buyback number in one reply instead of four emails. Paste it into the form on any page of this site and you will see what we mean.

Why specifying the duty beats specifying the grade

The counter-intuitive advice in the main list. If you tell a supplier “Grade A,” you get Grade A pricing. If you tell them “holding 32 per cent calcium chloride brine for a municipal plough fleet,” a good supplier tells you Grade C is fine and you save a substantial amount.

It also surfaces things you did not ask about. Describe the duty and you will get told about seat material, lid venting, pallet choice and specific gravity — none of which were in your RFQ and all of which matter.

The exception is where you have a genuine specification to meet. Then quote the clause verbatim rather than paraphrasing it, because paraphrased specifications drift.

Weighting the responses

If you are formally evaluating, a weighting that reflects where the risk actually sits:

A defensible evaluation weighting for used container supply.
CriterionWeightWhy
Delivered price35%Includes freight, which is where variance hides
Documented grading standard20%Without it, “Grade A” is not comparable
Remedy if grade is wrong15%Tells you who absorbs the risk
Documentation supplied10%Grade card, wash record, declaration, test results
Lead time reliability10%A comfortable date is worth less than an honest one
Buyback at end of life10%Converts a disposal cost into income

Note what is not there: cosmetic condition. It correlates poorly with service life and specifying it pushes suppliers toward units that photograph well.

Multi-year and blanket arrangements

If your volume is predictable, ask for a blanket price held for a term rather than a spot quote. Three things to specify:

  • Total volume and the term — typically six or twelve months.
  • Release mechanism — how much notice you give, and the minimum release size.
  • What happens to unused volume — rolled, released, or forfeit.

Price stability is worth real money in this market because resin and scrap steel move weekly. A held price is a genuine concession and it is one we give readily to customers who let us schedule the work.

Red flags in a response

  1. A published fixed price list. Either stale or guessing. Tote pricing follows three volatile inputs.
  2. No written grading criteria. The grade is then an opinion with a price tag.
  3. Unable to produce a prior-cargo declaration for the specific units.
  4. “Food grade” on units with industrial history. Physically impossible and tells you everything.
  5. No answer on remedy. If they will not say what happens when it goes wrong, assume nothing happens.
  6. Vague on who did the washing. Brokers are fine; brokers presenting as reconditioners are not.

Two lines that save the most money

“We also have N empties to clear.” A delivery paired with a collection is two useful loads for one set of miles, and it frequently changes the delivered price materially. Almost nobody mentions it.

“Our window is X to Y, not a fixed date.” Flexibility lets a supplier slot you onto an existing lane rather than running a dedicated trip. It is worth more than haggling, and it costs you nothing if your schedule genuinely allows it.

What we do with a good RFQ

Answer it in one reply with a delivered price, a date, the documentation list and — where relevant — a note saying a cheaper grade or a different capacity would serve you better. That last part is not generosity; a customer who buys the right thing comes back, and a customer who buys Grade A for brine duty does not.

Paste the twelve lines into the form on any page of this site and you will see how it works. A named specialist reads it, and the reply comes from the bench that can answer it.

REFERENCE

Reference

The tables behind this post

Dimensions, threads and seat materials in full, so you do not have to go looking. The complete reference is in the size guide.
A reconditioned 275 gallon caged composite IBC tote on a black plastic pallet, showing the galvanised cage, the moulded HDPE bottle, the red discharge valve and the six-inch fill capFig. 1
A single 275 gallon unit off the outbound pad. Galvanised tubular cage, blow-moulded HDPE bottle, 2 in S60x6 outlet, six-inch vented fill cap.
Rows of IBC totes stacked two and three high on pallets inside the Indianapolis warehouseFig. 2
Graded stock under roof, staged two and three high. Loaded units never stack more than two, and never while warm.
Nominal figures. Gross weight assumes water at 8.34 lb/gal — multiply by your cargo's specific gravity, then check it against the maximum permitted gross mass on the unit's own marking.
CapacityLitresFootprintHeightTareGross (water)Stack loaded
275 gal1,04148 × 40 in46 in≈140 lb≈2,435 lb2 high
330 gal1,24948 × 40 in53 in≈155 lb≈2,905 lb2 high
350 gal1,32548 × 40 in56 in≈165 lb≈3,075 lb2 high
120 gal45440 × 32 in38 in≈95 lb≈1,095 lb2 high
180 gal68142 × 36 in42 in≈115 lb≈1,616 lb2 high
550 gal2,08260 × 48 in60 in≈240 lb≈4,830 lb1 high

B / FITTINGS

What threads onto it

Fittings, threads and seat materials

S60x6 is a buttress thread that seals against a flat gasket face, not on the thread flanks. It is not interchangeable with NPT — forcing one into the other is the commonest hidden fault in used containers.
FittingSizeSeals bySeat optionsTypical service
S60x6 butterfly valve2 inFlat gasket faceEPDM, Viton, PTFEThe standard IBC outlet
S70x6 butterfly valve2 inFlat gasket faceEPDM, VitonEuropean and some 330 gal units
2 in NPT ball valve, poly2 inThread flanks + tapeEPDM, VitonRetrofits, metered dispensing
2 in NPT ball valve, stainless2 inThread flanks + tapePTFESolvents, pressure, hot cargo
3 in butterfly valve3 inFlat gasket faceEPDM, VitonViscous cargo, high flow
6 in fill cap6 inGasketed lidEPDM, siliconeVented or solid — choose deliberately
Camlock adapter, type C1.5 / 2 inCam arms + gasketBuna, VitonRepeated connect / disconnect
Bulkhead tap3/4 inBoth-side gasketsBrass, polyRain kits, site water
The valve body rarely fails. The seat does, and it is chosen by cargo rather than by price. Always verify against your specific concentration and temperature.
MaterialGood withAvoid withTemperatureCost
EPDMWater, acids, caustics, brine, ag-chemOils, fuels, aromatics-40 to 250 °FLow
Viton (FKM)Solvents, oils, fuels, aromaticsKetones, amines, hot steam-15 to 400 °FHigh
Nitrile (NBR)Oils, diesel, greases, hydraulicsOzone, strong oxidisers-30 to 250 °FLow
PTFE envelopeAlmost all chemistry, high purityNeeds very flat flange faces-100 to 450 °FHigh
SiliconeFood contact, wide temperatureSolvents, abrasion-60 to 450 °FMedium

C / COMPATIBILITY

Will HDPE hold it?

Sixteen cargo families, rated

HDPE is brilliant at most things and hopeless at a few. Where the answer is C, we will point you at stainless rather than sell you a container that will craze.
A = suitable, B = suitable with limits, C = not recommended in a composite IBC. Guidance only — verify against your own concentration and temperature.
Cargo familyHDPESeatNotes
Water, potable and non-potableAEPDM / siliconeFood-history units for potable
Acids and caustics, aqueousAEPDM / PTFEVent fuming cargo
Liquid fertiliser, UAN, NPKAEPDMSG up to 1.32 — check your lift-gate
Brine and chloride de-icerAEPDMHard on galvanising, kind to HDPE
Food syrups, oils, concentratesASilicone / VitonDocumented food history only
GlycolsAEPDMVery common; SG 1.04–1.11
AlcoholsAViton / PTFEFlammable — bond and vent
Diesel and gas oilBViton / NBRPermeates slowly over long storage
Mineral spiritsBVitonSwells HDPE slowly
Surfactants and detergentsBEPDMOdour fixation risk — dedicate units
Latex, adhesives, water-based paintAEPDMCures if left. Wash promptly.
Ketones, aromatics, chlorinated solventsC—Crazes HDPE. Stainless only.
Gasoline and low-conductivity fuelsC—Static risk. Steel or stainless.
Essential oils, flavour concentratesC—Fixes into the wall permanently. Never.
Hydrogen peroxide above 10%C—Decomposition and pressure risk
Dairy and hot-fill above 140 °FC—Needs CIP and steam. Stainless.

Permeation

Small non-polar molecules pass slowly through HDPE rather than attacking it. The bottle looks perfect and your cargo quietly leaves. It is a storage-duration problem: diesel for a week is fine, diesel for a year is not.

Crazing

Ketones, aromatics and chlorinated solvents cause fine surface cracking that propagates under stress. It is invisible until you hold the wall against a raking light, and it is a critical grading failure.

Odour fixation

Terpenes and some surfactants dissolve into the polymer itself rather than sitting on the surface. No wash removes them. This is why a food-grade tote has to have been a food tote from new.

A wide aisle inside the warehouse with IBC totes stacked on both sides and a roller door open at the far end
Compatibility decides where a container can go next. Everything in this aisle carries a written cargo history.

E / GRADING

A grade is a promise, not a mood

How every unit is scored

We publish the whole system because a grade without written criteria is just an opinion with a price tag. Nineteen points, fixed thresholds, one card per unit, seven years on file.
Every unit is scored against all nineteen. A single critical failure condemns the unit regardless of how the other eighteen score.
#PointCritical?
01Prior cargo declaration — present, written, specificYes
02Residual liquid — any volume at allYes
03Odour after wash — fixed odour by trained noseYes
04Bottle corner stress whiteningNo
05Interior scoring you can feelNo
06Interior crazing — fine surface crackingYes
07Bottle bulge or deformationYes
08Wall thickness at the thinnest pointYes
09Dome port condition and flange flatnessNo
10Outlet threads — cross-threading, chippingYes if crossed
11Valve function, full open and closeNo, replaceable
12Gasket condition — compression set, bloomNo, replaceable
13Cage squareness along the top railNo, pressable
14Cage weld integrity at tube intersectionsYes
15Cage coating and galvanising lossNo
16Pallet condition — cracked feet, rot, corrosionNo, replaceable
17Forklift pocket integrityNo
18UN marking legibility and dateNo, re-markable
19Leak test under our procedureYes

D / ORDERING

Commercial terms, up front

Lead times, minimums and what happens when it goes wrong

Discovering these at invoice stage is nobody's idea of a good relationship, so they are published.
Published so nothing arrives as a surprise at invoice stage. Prices themselves move weekly with resin, scrap steel and freight, which is why we do not publish a list.
ItemDetail
Minimum orderOne unit. No account minimum, no membership.
Stock lead timeGrade A and B 275 gal usually ship the same week
Rebottled lead time2–3 weeks, built to order in bay D
Food-grade lead time1–3 weeks when stock exists; supply-dependent
Full truckload45 on a 48 ft flat, 48 in a 53 ft van, 90 empties double-stacked
Payment, first orderPrepay by ACH or card
Payment, establishedNet 30 on credit approval
Grade guaranteeRegrade or replace, our freight both ways, 14 days
Leak warranty30 days from delivery, normal atmospheric service
CancellationFree until the truck is loaded
Returns14 days on unused stock units, freight at your cost
Sales taxIndiana resale certificates and out-of-state equivalents accepted

F / END OF LIFE

Reuse first, recycle last

What happens when the container is finally finished

Every unit that arrives is assessed down this list, in this order. 99.4% of incoming mass avoided landfill in 2024, and reuse plus repair accounted for over three quarters of it.
Assessed in this order, per unit, every time. The granulator is the fourth choice, not the first. 2024 figures against 2,994,000 lb of inbound mass.
StepOutcomeShare of massCost to us
01Reuse as is — wash and redeploy63.9%11 gal of mostly reclaimed water
02Repair and reuse — valve, gasket, pallet, cage11.4%Parts and bench time
03Rebottle — new bottle, reclaimed steel9.6%A new bottle, two thirds of mass retained
04Upcycle — rain kits, grow beds, wash stations3.2%Fabrication time
05Material recovery — HDPE regrind, steel, wood11.3%Grinding, washing, drying energy
06Residual to licensed disposal0.6%Sludge, gasket rubber, fasteners, laminates
Stacks of used IBC totes under a clear blue sky on the gravel pad, awaiting grading
Inbound. Nothing comes off the trailer before its cargo declaration is read.
Mixed white and black IBC totes staged beside the loading dock doors
Graded and sorted. Black bottles are UV-stable units destined for outdoor service.
A wide field of IBC totes standing on grass under a blue sky, waiting to be collected
Recovered from a customer yard. Every one of these avoided a crusher.

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